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  • markdale 9:33 pm on March 22, 2012 COMMENT
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    Atlantis cruisers arrested in Dominica: Our Thoughts 

    Some of us are old enough to remember the “Point/Counterpoint” segment on “60 MINUTES” where opposing viewpoints were presented on current issues. Of course later there was Siskel and Ebert, but now here are Mark and Dale!

    We each reached different conclusions concerning the gay male couple who were recently arrested on an Atlantis Events cruise while docked in Dominica due to having sex on their balcony while being visible to people on shore.

    DALE:  My thought is that a good traveler needs to conform as much as possible to the culture in which he is a guest.  “Guest” is a key word here.

    MARK:  I totally agree with that and I have seen the ‘Ugly American’ on most of my international trips. I believe what the two men did was highly inappropriate.  Atlantis isn’t to blame, only the individuals involved.

    Their actions would have been looked upon negatively in every part of the world. This was an example of where cruisers didn’t behave with the respect that a guest should display.

    DALE:  So do you think LGBT people should avoid Dominica because of this incident?

    MARK:  I don’t want to spend my hard-earned dollars in a country which is blatantly anti-gay. Likewise, I also choose not to support certain corporations due to their discrimination or employment policies. I frankly don’t see the difference.

    DALE:  But LGBT travelers visiting these less-than-gay-friendly cultures can be a positive thing. We can show by example that we as gay people are not a threat.  America’s tolerance has increased due to the fact that so many gays are now out. With so many people knowing a gay family member, friend, or co-worker, we have made allies of many who were once intolerant. This would not have happened if we remained ‘invisible’.

    MARK:  So would you go to Dominica?

    DALE:  Yes. I believe we could make a difference by being there and acting appropriately for that region of the world.  Would you go there Mark?

    MARK:  No. With all of the options out there, I would choose not to visit a place that I view as extremely homophobic. You’re right, we can make this world a better place by showing a good example. However, I can’t condone supporting anti-gay countries or institutions.

    We’d love to know your feeling on this. Please add your comments. Here’s a list of countries where it’s illegal to be gay.

     

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    • Dave Cantrall 7:42 am on March 23, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Mark and Dale,

      Thanks for posting this on the Meet Me On Board Website. I first heard about it on KTVU in San Francisco.

      Here is what I think:
      a) I will not travel to countries who are expressively against gay people and who have laws which make it a crime just to be gay.
      b) HOWEVER, I personally think the gay male couple who had sex on their balcony in view of others is outrageous and grossly inappropriate.
      I also believe heterosexual couples having sex in plain view is also grossly inappropriate – which does occur on cruise ships as well, but we just don’t hear or read about it.

      Dave

    • Randall 10:46 am on March 23, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I love this point/counterpoint. See more information on countries where being gay is, in some form, illegal, by clicking here.

    • Joseph 11:34 am on March 24, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      The reports stating they were having sex on their balcony are incorrect. They were arrested for “buggery” but charged with indecent exposure – going on their balcony nude. You can read the Atlantis fan page on Facebook and see some statements by the guys who were arrested. The way the entire case was handled exposes some pretty entrenched anti-gay bigotry on the part of the Dominican establishment. I am less inclined to travel on a cruise that goes through Dominica now, but I think this also is a reminder that gay guys who travel to foreign countries outside of Western Europe or North America need to be very careful about attention they attract and local attitudes about gay people.

      • Robert 12:08 pm on March 24, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I fully agree with you Joseph. I hope we in the gay community start boycotting these places that are so blatantly anti-gay. My question would be…if 2,000 gay men stop at this island that is so bigoted, why the $$%%$# wouldn’t Atlantis or Celebrity warn them. Beyond that…why would you go there in the first place?

      • Roger 11:07 am on April 10, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Joseph, these two men were having sex on their balcony. I have seen the pictures of them and would be happy to forward them to you. They were fortunate that they were not charged with buggery because it would have been a felony. Dominica reduced it to indecent exposure to appease Atlantis and Celebrity. If you have ever been on an Atlantis cruise you would know that they tell you repeatedly to use discretion when in a foreign port. These two cruisers were arrested for having sex in public, not because they were gay. They could just as easily been arrested in Miami. In most of the world it is illegal to have sex in public. For them to blame Dominica is ridiculous.
        Second question is should a gay cruise to to anti-gay ports. That is a more difficult question for me. It certainly would knock out a large portion of the cruise destinations if they eliminate all gay unfriendly ports.

    • Robert 12:04 pm on March 24, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Rich’s initial response to this incident was that these guys were having sex on the balcony with all to view. Obviously, this would of been inappropriate in any country and was beyond the control of Atlantis. I am now reading more and more articles where this was NOT the truth. The men simply exited their balcony for a short period and were arrested for indecent exposure. After being put in the police officers car, mobs of people surrounded the car and it became very intense and frightful. The more I read about this, it is apparent that this event took place purely due to hatred of gays. I would NEVER go to Dominica and woud hope that we as gays boycott any country that is so down right hateful. Be careful Atlantis cruisers…things are going in a dangerous direction now in St. Petersburg Russia where you’ll be sailing this summer.

    • Angel 6:41 am on March 25, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I was in the cruise and Atlantis did not tell us it was a crime t o be gay in Dominica im up set they put us in that risk. I think is stupid to take 2000 gay guys to a homophobic destination. honestly when you are in a gay environment such a gay cruise yo can easily forget that you are not living in a gay world. There were other passengers who told during a game they had sex in the balcony while in the sea.

    • Jason 10:08 am on March 25, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I wasn’t on this cruise so obviously, I don’t know all the facts and don’t know if we ever will. Having said that, I do agree with Angel and wonder why Atlantis would send 2,000 gay men in a party atmosphere to such a homophobic country. With the recent anti-gay laws that are threatening St. Petersburg Russia, this is another destination that is no longer safe to travel to. Will Atlantis be traveling there in July?

      • Ron 10:24 am on April 10, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Good points Jason, I host travel for professional gay men in my city and def take the time to explain why I don’t go to certain countries. I established long ago that I never travel or recommend Jamaica. Simply because to be gay there is to be dead. More gay men and travel industry providers need to re-evaluate there itineraries. Maybe even educating the clients and providing an alternative on-board activity and not spend dollars in the guilty ports of call.

    • Peter 12:27 am on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      How truly “tolerant” is the US? As a Canadian gay man, married equally and legally on Canadian soil, who chooses to also live in beautiful South Florida (15 minutes from the cruise port I might add), I have witnessed my fair share of bigotry. Ever try walking hand-in-hand with your husband on the streets, malls and other public venues of Florida? Other than within the safe confines of a gay bar or strolling South Beach, we are stared upon, commented on by fellow citizens. Ever notice exactly how many gay couples are even comfortable holding hands – period. Gay friends have actually said to us, “It’s okay for you guys, because you’re big men; we’d be asking for trouble for flaunting who we are of we did the same”. Hearing “faggots!” yelled from passing cars while walking your own neighborhood, will not discourage us from continuing the same PDAs our hetero compatriots enjoy so freely. There’s the real irony: The “land of the free” is not so free for everyone. Public sex belongs in the proper place, and I think we have yet to hear the entire story… somewhere between what’s been said and what happened lies the truth. Another country may certainly be more repressive than the US, but let’s not kid ourselves if we think America is not without its bias. And would this have even occurred if the couple in question was straight? Perhaps… but I am more inclined to believe there would admiring crowds of onlookers, cheering for more while the iphone snaps away. I feel sorry for how this couple – and the many others who have been unjustly treated before them. Live freely as you are… proudly hold your lover’s hand… and know one day they will all be desensitized to our actions and it will be the normal non-issue of days gone.

      • Michael Schmidt 11:53 pm on April 26, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Rob, Thank you very much for your comments! That is exactly how it is. We do live as Second Class Citizens in this country. I also guarantee that had it been a STRAIGHT couple, they would have snickered and laughed. I did 3 Atlantis Cruises and its a floating WHITE PARTY. I had a great time and never had to worry about getting hit on, hands going everywhere.

        You pay DOUBLE for Atlantis and I think they pick the ports, they know the passenger types and quite honestly some of those Islands have quirky laws. Grand Caymon if you take your shirt off they arrest you for indecent exposure.

        I am not going sit here and listen to ATLANTIS Cruisers act like the cruise is a CHUCH CAMP! LOL

    • Rob 10:13 am on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      The story these men are telling anyone who will listen seems less than credible and is evolving over time. When they were interviewed by the AP in Puerto Rico after they got out of jail, they refused to say whether they were having sex or not, which seems a de facto admission they were. They have also variously claimed to have been nude or semi-nude. On the Atlantis FB page, some Atlantis pax claim to have seen the couple having sex on their balcony and they say the couple did not stop when they realised they had been seen. The owner of Atlantis also made this claim initially.

      I really regret that the impression the world has of gay cruisers is the image of the Atlantis party cruiser, which seems to hit the media as often as Atlantis hits the seas these days. Atlantis fans will tell you “it happens on all the lines” but really, when is the last time you heard of a suicide on an R Family cruise or a drug overdose on an Olivia cruise or a Pied Piper Cruise to a homophobic country. That these inappropriate and unwise people have become the most visible face of gay cruising brings me shame. When straight friends hear we are going on a cruise and ask if we’re going with “that” company, we are quick to say no and they are quick to appear obviously relieved.

    • Jack & Dan 10:21 am on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      We are in our 60′s and love to travel. We have been together for more then 19 years. When traveling all people, gay or straight, need to use common sense. There is a time and place for enjoying sex and publicly on a balcony is not one of them. Should the gay couple been arrested – YES(as well as any other straight couple). There are so many beautiful islands in the Caribbean and Dominica is certainly not one of our top picks. Yes, Atlantis should pick their ports more wisely. But, us gay or straight men and women should be held responsible for our actions and should always remember we are guests in these ports – this is not our private back yard to do as we please.

      Jack & Dan

    • Daryl Seamark 10:44 am on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I think we all agree that we perfer to spend our money where we are welcome, i.e. gay establishments, gay friendly islands or cities. Maybe it is my way of thinking but I find it hard to believe that you can put upwards of 2,000 gay men together and NOT get a few, that think “to hell with the rules and how it looks, lets just do it. If they don’t like it, that is their problem”. Thre is plenty of opportunity on an all gay cruise to get together with other guys. Why is it necessary to flaunt being gay. Why is it necessary to hold hands, embrace except in certain circumstances, if this is not considered proper in certain countries, or states for that matter. . I’ve been married for 30 years (even before it was legal here in Canada) and have wanted on occasion to show my affection for my spouse in public but have not due to local customs and It doesn’t matter if we are gay, straight, bi, or transgendered. If the two guys involved plan on having sex or even play nude on the front lawn at home, regardless of where they live, they are going to be arrested, guaranteed.. What makes them think it is okay in Dominica.

    • Damon 10:47 am on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      As a local LGBT activist in the Caribbean and a fellow Atlantis cruiser, I was insulted by this irresponsible behaviour. 2000+ of us on the Atlantis cruise have now been tarnished with the same dirty brush. Also spare a thought of the fall out this will cause for me and my fellow gay people throughout the islands moving forwards, whilst those individuals are now ensconced in the safety of their ‘free world’ crying victim of homophobia, rather than having been dealt with for an act of indecency. That is what the final charges were. The initial charge of buggery was dropped. In my opinion, that was sent to them as a warning shot – because it is a heavily punishable offense in most of the islands. Buggery is the act of anal sex – not just male on male, I might add! I am incandescent with rage at the hypocrisy of all banging the drum of protest without knowing the facts, or better yet, speaking to the local gay community to know what we really face day to day, and the fight for progress that has now been pushed back years as a result of this stupidity. This issue is about lewd behaviour and gross indecency in public. It has been sensationalised by the fact that it happened in a country still with anti gay legislation. Atlantis or not, gay people CHOOSE to visit many of the islands independently and of own free will. They don’t get their kit off and get busy in public. When visiting they are generally met with curiosity (sometimes in the guise of a verbal taunt), if not met with a welcome. Believe it or not, it’s a small minority who are vehement, aggressive and/or violent in their opposition towards gay people. That is the same world wide – I have experienced it in the US and the UK, and Europe. Africa even worse with the death sentence trying to be imposed in some countries. We need to keep a perspective on this incident. We are struggling to have our laws changed in the islands, but ironically no one has been arrested for being gay, and even now, I still say so. The arrests made were not because these two were gay. They were arrested for being idiots making a public display of what should have been private. You can help us by being role models in society which the vast majority of the guys I met demonstrated. Social responsibility rests with each and every one of us, wherever in the world you may be. Surely if I went cruising in a park somewhere in the US, got caught with my pants down, I’d be arrested in your free gay friendly world, deported and have my US visa revoked and unable to return due to a misdemeanour or felony or whatever level is dealt. Let’s stop the hypocrisy and sitting in our ivory towers thinking that all is well in our gardens!

      • Michael Schmidt 11:48 pm on April 26, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Oh Sister get off the soap box. I have been on 3 Atlantis Cruises and its all a big drink, drug, screw for 7 days. To act like its not anything else is just not being truthful. That why we went on the darn things because our neighbors went every years and we heard all the wild tells and up in the Toplesss bathing area at night you could see the book store action. Rich Cambell knew better. Stop booking Homophobe Islands and stick with those that are friendly.

    • Tom 11:02 am on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I was on this cruise. I blame Atlantis for booking this port because of past problems (protests, rocks being thrown at the ship, etc.). I blame Atlantis for not being up front with their guests about the severity of homophobia in Dominica. The Atlantis cruise director was advising that “Dominica isn’t all that for strolling, shopping and eating, so if you’re going to get off the boat, you really should book an excursion” – in other words, don’t mix with the locals who are so homophopic they will insult you to your face, just get on a tour led by someone who can deal with it because they know they are making money from you. Only the Atlantiis cruise director didn’t put it that way. They were purposefully evasive about the environment and safety of their passengers. Fortunately, we heard from others about the past experiences, and we didn’t get off the ship. Unfortunately, we heard many stories from those that did go ashore. Taxis refused to take a gay couple as passengers. Local radio was appealing to residents to protest. Merchants told perspective customers that they were sickening and perverted. That Atlantis took us there after the previous trip shows very poor judgement on their part.

      Frankly, the arrest of the two men doesn’t have much impact on my opinion of Dominica since I don’t really know what happened. Per their story after the fact, it all sounds very suspicious and one must conclude that their situation could have been handled better by all involved (including the two men). But this isn’t why I won’t go back to Dominica and why I’m so upset with Atlantis. My reasons are for the many events that occurred while in port last week and a few years ago. Atlantis needs to be more responsible with their planning of ports and their educating of passengers. For example, they made a big deal about telling us not to wear camoflage on Grenada or Barbados. Why didn’t they also tell us what happened before in Dominica as a warning regarding the prevalent mindset of the island’s inhabitants?

    • Jerry 11:12 am on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I am sorry, but just being gay does not give us the option to act any way we want. If the ship is docked in Port and you are in full view of everyone, you have an obligation to act in a correct manner. That applies to anywhere you are, even in the states. Public sex is public sex even on a balcony. The moment was so heated that they coulcn’t retire to the privacy of their own cabin. If this were a straight couple doing the same thing, I think authorities would have acted similarly.

      It hasn’t been that long ago that we were persucuted and jailed for just being gay, remember Stonewall. It has only been a short while ago that the sodomy laws were overturned and you could have been arrested in the US. Those of you that have such strong opinions about travel to less tolerant countries, should stay home and look at your neighbors who depending on where you live are equally as less tolerant. I have been cruising for over 19 years and have never had a problem. I was respectful of the culture and people of where ever I traveled. That is the key word to traveling… RESPECTFUL. Too often we as Americans forget that and act as if it is no big deal that others do not think the same way we do so our actions do not have to conform.
      I agree with others who have stated, it is up to us as gay Americans to continue traveling and demonstrate how good it is to have gay visitors.

    • Jim Kelly-Evans 11:55 am on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      My husband and I had a great time on this cruise, notwithstanding the homophobia some of us encountered in Dominica. We knew that these islands, with the exception of St.; Barth’s, have an anti-gay track record. We booked the cruise nevertheless because we enjoy Atlantis, the Caribbean, and St. Barth’s. While we would have preferred that Atlantis not go to anti-gay destinations, we were hoping that the presence of gay people could perhaps do some good, as long as Atlantis was determined to go there… a mistake. I understand that Rich Campbell is a businessman and that his goal is to run a profitable business. However, I do not think that means that he can’t be more responsible when it comes to the overall welfare of his clientele and that of the gay community as a whole. I found Campbell’s statements about the Dominica incident disingenuous and frankly, extremely disappointing. It is as if he expects us to return to the closet (Malcolm’s advice that “the best way to see Dominica is on an excursion,” which is code for no walking around Roseau hand in hand) so that he (Campbell) need not make any changes to his itineraries. Rich needs to fess up to his responsibility as a businessman who caters to gay men. This means avoiding itineraries with ports that have anti-gay laws on the books, and ports where the local gay community has called for a boycott, e.g. St. Petersburg.

      • Tom 2:55 pm on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        To be fair (and to agree with Jim), the cruise was an AWESOME experience. The selection of Dominica as one of our stops (and how poorly the staff prepared us for it) was the only disappointment of any merit.

      • Michael Schmidt 11:43 pm on April 26, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Absolutely WELL said! Rich Cambell has gotten wealthy off of his cruises and he picked a cheap port dock to increase his profits. I like Atlantis Cruises did 3, but your not being 100% honest if you don’t accept that its 99% Men and Men do what Men do. If I had Children, they would not be on an ATLANTIS Cruise, we would book a Disney Cruise or go on one of OUR Family Cruises. I think Atlantis should have coached the passengers as to local law. If your on your Balcony, most people don’t think of being in a jurisdiction. I have seen Gay and Straight People on Cruises having sex on their Balconies. We just don’t book destinations that we think are just TRASH! The Bahamas is on our list of no stops too.

    • Michael Feldman 1:04 pm on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Proper behavior is proper behavior, no matter where. That said: we are not second class citizens nor second class human beings and, therefore, do not need to prove to anyone our worthiness, especially by denying that worthiness while enhancing their economy. We certainly don’t need to go to a homophobic, ignorant country to prove anything. The idea that Atlantic would visit any country where homophobia reigns and problems have occurred in the past is unfathomable.

    • Matthew 3:57 pm on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      When I first saw and heard this, it was said they were found having sex on a beach while they were visiting and later arrested when back on the ship. So really, what is correct as now I see here it was on their balcony. This now conflicts with what I heard and how handled. If they were arrested cause of having male sex with male in their room, then we really have a problem, but if they were out in public, doesn’t matter who it was, that is indecent exposure, but, if they on their own balcany, is that part of the room sort of? lol. But there was also a report that they were originally arrested for having male/male sex which is illegal there, and then changed to the sex in public exposure.

    • Richard 5:34 pm on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      It’s not a gay issue.. being nude in public is not allowed. Stop being victims and show some class, and wear a swimsuit while you’re docked and on your balcony

    • Greg Meredith 6:21 pm on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Funny that Dominica is so anti-gay and so lax when it comes to drugs. I was approached by at least four locals offering to sell drugs as we strolled the town. This is a third world country with a very uneducated population – most of whom live in poverty. I have a hard time understanding why the cruise ships even stop there other than out of some social obligation to help the economy. As far as the arrests-I have a real belief that if they were straight and merely stepped onto their balcony for a brief time they would be arrested. I am sure that this ship was being closely watched by lots of folks on shore. Too bad Atlantis didn’t anticipate this and caution accordingly.

    • jim 6:46 pm on March 27, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Why is everybody trying to blame Dominica or Atlantis for stopping in Dominica. What those 2 did was wrong and they got caught. It is not the countries fault or the travel company. Gay guys got to wise up and learn you can not have sex where ever you want. They were docked in port and walked on their balcony and had sex of course people were going to see. So the authorities did what they should have arrested. Those two need to learn morals and quit crying because they got caught.

    • Rob 4:45 am on March 28, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Qwerty has a first-hand account from other passengers that clarifies a lot. They were seen by female pier workers and they were, indeed, having sex.

      http://www.queerty.com/exclusive-very-very-obvious-that-atlantis-cruise-duo-in-dominica-were-having-sex-says-witness-20120327/

    • Tom Schaefer 5:16 am on March 28, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      It continually amazes me how people wont take responsibility for their own actions. In no way is Atlantis responsible for what happens to passengers. The LGBT community has the intelligence to research ports of call and find out what the “current attitude” is towards homosexuality. If they are concerned, then dont book that itinerary. We want respect but it goes both ways….respect local customs. Being on a gay cruise does not mean morales are left at the pier upon sailing. If the passengers were having sex in view of others……give me a break…. Isnt the privacy of a stateroom enough?Whats next, sex in the dinningroom…. I am no prude, but common sense needs to kick in at some point. The world is becoming very scary these days, and protecting oneself while traveling is ones own responsibility and not the cruise line or charter company. Freedom is a precious thing, something many people can only dream about…dont take it for granted, dont think anything goes just because you think you can…there maybe a price. As for not going to ports of call because of “attitudes”……thats a personal choice especially with spending ones hard earned dollars. But if its because you cant do your thing in public because you are on a gay cruise….well remember the cruise is on the ship, not on the pier. Sex out in the open…..straight or gay……why? I can tell you if I had an adopted child onboard and my child was exposed to behavior like that…..id be in their face. Sex between two people is a very personal thing….keep it that way. To everyone, travel and enjoy the experience……and remember how lucky you are to be able to do so…something many people on these islands cant imagine.

    • Jimmi 10:34 am on March 28, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      My partner and I visited the island of Dominica, the day after this incident, on Celebrity Equinox. Our experience (and previous visits to this island) have been nothing but wonderful. In fact I even said to my partner that the people there were one of the most friendly of the islands we have visited. Now that being said, we were not on a gay cruise. But regardless if it was a gay cruise or not, like in any country (including the U.S.) you have to conduct appropriate to your surroundings. I wouldn’t imagine this would be tolerated if it was a straight couple either. I think it wouldn’t matter where this was, if this happened in the US, it would have still been an issue. I just think we as a community should be a little more responsible and respectful of others who don’t necessarily want to see this. If the tables were turned, would you want to see a straight couple doing this? Being gay doesn’t give you the Carte Blanche to act inappropriate. Imagine your parents where on that pier looking at the ship, would you still be acting like this?

      • Michael Schmidt 11:35 pm on April 26, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        If it had been a STRAIGHT Couple banging, they would have hooped and hollered and joined in! Think there nice, hold hands and you will be arrested and if you take your t-shirt off they arrest for indecent exposure.

    • Michael Schmidt 11:33 pm on April 26, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Here is my comment: #1 I am FURIOUS at Atlantis. They charter the entire ship, THEY BRAG that their ITINERARIES are custom designed by THEM, so if that were true they chose to take a CHEAP DOCK FEE. 8 years ago we went on a Bear Cruise to the Dominican Repubic, the ship shopping consultant didn’t even encourage anyone to get off the ship.

      We did and they wanted us to see a fancy HIGH WALLED development for Rich Americans and of course we wanted a bargain so I bribed the cab driver to take us down town. Filthy, is an understatement.

      If you have never been on an ATLANTIS Cruise, then you have no idea, it is one party after another and the entire ship is FREE! IF you don’t know what I mean, I mean, the guys are doing it every where!

      When you pay 4600.00 to go on a 7 day cruise, you get the impression that ATLANTIS has all under control. I think any one calling someone who is GAY having sex in a public place is either in denial or a PRUDE. We have camper and go to Gay Camprounds all the time. Men folk do it everywhere.

      I have seen many a straight couple screw on their balcony and I bet if that had been the case, whoever complained would have been calling for a crowd for a cheap thrill.

      My fury is directed at Atlantis! They sailed off leaving 2 tourist in their charge in a RAT HOLE Jail. Both exposed by name and where they live. Now I don’t book cruises that go to Domincan Republic, Jamaica or COZUMEL! Our greatest experiences of both friendly islanders have been to St. Thomas, St. Marten, Caraseau and St. Kitts. In fact we were so overwhelmed with the PRIDE FLAGS THAT draped the old fort wall of Caraseau we have went back and vacationed there and plan to retire there. A true European style Island.

      If you want to do drugs, drink and party all night and hook up like a WHITE PARTY, Atlantis is for you. I had just been thinking about booking one next spring but after this, there off my GAYDAR!

  • 2:41 pm on July 5, 2011 COMMENT
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    Ask And You Shall Receive 

    Survey Results: Part 3

    By: Michael Bradbury, MMOB Director of Marketing

    The MeetMeOnBoard tagline, “Where gay cruise travelers connect” captures the purpose of the site in just a few words. Through our recent membership survey, you have told us in many more words just how you would like to accomplish that.

    One member says, “I feel the present online email system is a good tool.” Another adds, “I prefer to meet or at least send messages prior to sailing.” A future-forward members suggests, “Video chat would be great!”

    Mark and Dale started MeetMeOnBoard.com because they were going on a cruise and wanted to know if other gay people would be on board. Of course there were others on board but they didn’t know how to get in touch with them before the ship sailed.

    Fast-forward three plus years later and we have an active community of nearly 4,000 LGBT cruise enthusiasts who are connecting before, during and after their cruises. What we couldn’t have anticipated before starting the site is how many different ways there are to connect, virtually.

    What is clear is that you want us to keep up with technological advances while maintaining more traditional online communication methods.

    We offer The Muster Station as a sandbox for members to use however they are comfortable. It started out as a place for people to announce the ships they were sailing. Now we have a special place in The Forum for that – Roll Calls. Then The Muster Station became the hot place to live blog from ships and to make general inquiries or comments. A few members even thought it would be fun to post their ship photos there.

    As a significant number of members begin to use The Muster Station for one specific use, we try to spin that use off into its own feature. By doing this we are responding directly to what you want, whether you ask for it or not. And more of those features are on the way.

    In the survey many of you asked for a forum to capture topics in an archive. Since finishing the survey we launched The Forum. It includes ship Roll Calls, which most of you requested from the get go.

    Some members asked for a chat function on the site. Now, there is one in the works. In the meantime, you can use The Muster Station as a public (yes, it’s crawled by Google all the time) chat room since everything in there is live and in real time. With enough people using The Forum, it’s got potential to fill that use too. But the best way to communicate instantly is through My Cruisemates on your profile.

    As those of you who have booked a cruise since joining MeetMeOnBoard know, when you have an upcoming cruise listed on your profile, you are automatically put into a group with all the members who are on the same cruise.

    And for those of you who wanted some private groups on the site, My Cruisemates works perfectly for that, providing you are booked on an upcoming cruise. In the coming months we will be adding more groups to The Muster Station, where some of our site partners and a few others will set up their own places to gather.

    About one-third of the membership visits MeetMeOnBoard 2-3 times per month while another 35% visits just a few times a year, likely when they have an upcoming cruise.

    While most of you said that MeetMeOnBoard is pretty easy to navigate, 30% of the members suggest we continue to make improvements. We’ve taken those comments seriously and have made a few slight changes already with a few more coming this summer.

    But many of the comments related to features that we already have available but perhaps haven’t explained thoroughly.

    The number one question members asked was how to find out if other members are booked on their cruise.

    As long as you have your cruise listed in your profile other people on the same sailing will automatically show up in My Cruisemates. If you haven’t added your cruise to your profile you can go to the Cruise Calendar and find the cruise there. If it there is a “Meet us on board” link in the listing then you can click there and see all the members who are going with you.

    Though MeetMeOnBoard is growing fast, we know we aren’t including the LGBT cruisers who are not yet members. That’s where we rely on you. As you meet folks on ships or on land for that matter, please tell them about MeetMeOnBoard so we can get everyone who wants to on board.

    “We have all this cool technology that frankly I don’t understand,” says Mark den Hartog, MMOB founder. “And we just keep adding the latest gizmos and widgets to the site so we can keep the members happy.”

    By far the biggest piece of constructive criticism we received was relating to logging in and staying in. Different web browsers respond differently but many members were having a problem signing in and then being asked to sign in again. This issue is completely resolved. But a few folks who haven’t visited the site for a couple of months may need to refresh their cookies or delete their MMOB browser history. Once you do that the sign in problem should melt away. Now once you are signed in, you have to log out. You won’t automatically be logged out after a few hours any more.

    On our survey, we asked what features of MeetMeOnBoard are important to you. You responded overwhelmingly and we listened.

    Here are the Top Six features you want to see.

    1. Cruise Reviews from a gay perspective
    2. Ports of Call from a gay perspective
    3. Ability to connect with a cabin mate
    4. Live chat
    5. LGBT Cruise Forum
    6. Smartphone Application

    We have added The Forum since the survey was conducted and are currently working on four of the other top requested features, including cruise reviews and ports of call which we’ll be rolling out soon after Labor Day.

    From all the team at MeetMeOnBoard we are so pleased to continue to serve you by giving you the features you want to optimize use of our site. Please keep coming back and tell your friends and fellow cruise travelers.

    MeetMeOnBoard is an online social network but from the survey many of you are already meeting in person. We’ll have a few of those stories and tell you about our plans to help you meet in port cities in our next installment of our 2011 Survey Results, Meet Me Before We Get On Board.


     

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  • 1:43 pm on June 22, 2011 COMMENT
    Tags: All-gay cruises, , , statistics   

    Gay Cruises, Gay Group Cruises, or Mainstream: your favorite ways to cruise 

    Survey Results: Part 2

    By: Michael BradburyMMOB Director of Marketing

    Olivia Cruises

    For a lot of LGBT travelers, being trapped on a ship far from land with members of their own family strikes fear into their hearts. For others, sailing on a cruise ship is a way to get closer to blood relatives and spend time together away from the hustle and bustle of daily life. As gay people we have the added bonus of being able to choose our second family—each other. And according to all the members at MeetMeOnBoard, we love to do it together.

    As was clear from our recent membership survey, we LGBTs love to be together. Over a third of our nearly 4,000 members have had the pleasure of traveling on an all-gay charter cruise like Atlantis, RSVP or Olivia. Another 25% have traveled on a mainstream cruise line but as part of a larger gay group, like Aquafest, Pied Piper, Chumley’s or Sweet.

    But the vast majority—85%—tend to stick to the mainstream cruises and make their own gay fun.

    • We discovered that price is the number one reason members opt for mainstream cruises over all-gay cruises.
    • Several members say that it’s fun to do an all-gay cruise just to have the experience but you pay more and give up the choice of going where you want to go.
    • Since destination was clearly the biggest factor for members when choosing a cruise, it stands to reason that there are many more options when traveling singly or as a couple on a mainstream departure.

    John Tolliver, an avid cruise ship traveler from Wappinger Falls, New York has sailed on all-gay, gay group and mainstream cruises. And he says each style of cruising has its pluses and minuses.

    Aquafest - NCL Dawn 2010

    He says, “The advantage of the gay charters I think is you feel you’re in a whole new world, and the blinders come off.”

    Most all-gay cruises book out the newest, biggest ships and bring their own top-notch entertainment on board. That’s a huge advantage for some, turning a more traditional cruise ship into a floating party.

    Several members specifically commented that on an all-gay charters the crew is allowed to let their hair down a little bit more than they would otherwise. One recounted a story of a hotel manager ending up in a hot tub at the end of a raucous night.

    Chumley's BearCruise - Crown Princess 2011

    For some removing those blinders can be too much. Call it sensory overload. The late-night parties, excessive drinking, wild costumes and theme nights can be too much for some, making an all-gay charter overwhelming. With so much going on all the time, it’s hard not to get exhausted.

    • One man says, “The all-gay ones are just so much fun, almost too much. And we don’t dance all night or drink too much or have sex in the sauna. The passengers are just all so nice and attitude is seldom in view. The entertainment, including the hilarious versions of BINGO and the Newlywed game, is so wonderful. So much better than any ordinary cruise I have ever been on.”
    • Another says, “Shockingly most times I find straight NCL cruises more fun than gay cruises… with the exception of how awesome the deck parties can be with Atlantis (lasers, lights, sound mostly).” He also says, “Atlantis has priced itself out and I think it’s catching up with itself. Booking bigger newer ships gets people but the same stale itineraries for sometimes double what you’d pay for the same cabin otherwise is just silly.”
    • Several members say that to go on an all-gay cruise you are really paying a gay tax. Supply and demand dictate those high costs. And the all-gay charters are selling out so they must be doing something right.
    • One cruiser put it very succinctly. “No children, everyone is on the same vacation (unlike your typical cruise where there are reunions and family gatherings, etc…) the other cruisers are very friendly and there is little complaining.”

    Sailing out of St. Petersburg, Russia | Atlantis 2009 Baltic Cruise

     

    A lot of you would much rather choose a vacation destination and develop a cruise around that, selecting cruise line and then ship. And it appears that no one has trouble spotting one another once the ship sets sail.

    Many members say they thought they were booked on a straight cruise—until the gays showed up.

    This story is oh so common and makes the MeetMeOnBoard staff quite giddy. That’s the purpose of this site—to connect LGBT cruise travelers.

    Tolliver says, “Straight cruises are a whole different game. So much it seems is up to the Hotel Director/Cruise Director onboard.” He says they can either embrace the gays or ignore them.

    And, many members have stories of both. It appears that many Princess ships are no longer actively hosting their Friends of Dorothy cocktail gatherings (or the members aren’t seeing those parties listed anywhere). But just by walking around the ship’s deck, many gay singles and couples are finding each other.

    And, then there is the hybrid between an all-gay charter and a mainstream cruise—the gay group cruise.

    This relatively new way to travel has been expanded in the last few years. Travel agents who aren’t able to fill a whole ship just reserve a handful (20-500) of spaces on ships that hold 2,000-4,000 passengers. The gay group is a great way to feel the comfort of the gay vibe without being immersed in it during an entire vacation.

    • Karen, a single lesbian from Lawrence, Kansas says she travels with a group of 8-10 gay friends. She began with a cruise to Alaska in 2008 followed quickly by trips to Columbia, and Central America that same year. Then after a summer in Spain and Sweden, she formed a new family of friends which they turned into Fika Tours. Now she says, “We are our own gay-group in a mainstream cruise.”

    The membership survey showed that MeetMeOnBoard is a diverse community of people who share an important common thread — an insatiable desire to travel by cruise ship. We have avid fans of all-gay charters, where the price is higher, destination is out of your control but the party goes all the time.

    We also have regular vacationers who go where they want, how they want (by cruise ship) and leave meeting other gay people up to fate. With so many LGBT couples and singles traveling by cruise ship, it’s nearly impossible to be the only gay people on a ship these days.

    MeetMeOnBoard is also comprised of a growing number of members who love the best of both worlds. The gay-group allows the freedom to be yourself, hold hands or kiss your partner without feeling like you are making a political statement. It allows passengers to opt in or opt out of gay-specific activities. And many of our members really enjoy the idea that they can go on a cruise, be themselves and show straight people that being gay is really no big deal.

    • Bill, from North Carolina (not a member) and his wife were traveling on a Princess cruise a few years ago and there was a gay-group on board. One night he and his wife were in the top deck lounge watching the gay group dance and have a great time. He says another straight couple came into the lounge and sat down, not seeing the obvious group of gay men dancing. The wife decided she wanted to dance and Bill says when she returned to her seat, “We could hear the woman say ‘There aren’t any women on the dance floor!’ My wife and I just about died laughing.”

    Tolliver says, “I think it’s kind of cool on the straight or gay group cruises because just about everyone you meet, straight couples learn that there is nothing to fear from gay men and women.” He adds, “Like that whole philosophy of showing how alike we are by example rather than how different.”

    How You Use MeetMeOnBoard

    It’s clear from our survey that you are connecting with each other before, during and after your cruises. We set up MeetMeOnBoard.com to do just that. We offer many different ways to engage with each other. But we are always listening to your kind suggestions and trying to improve the site and our services to better serve your cruise-connecting needs. We’ll explore that in our next installment of our 2011 Survey Results, Ask and You Shall Receive.

     

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  • markdale 2:07 pm on June 8, 2011 COMMENT
    Tags: All-gay cruises, , ,   

    Cruising for Life 

     

     

     

     

    Survey Results: Part 1

    By: Michael Bradbury, MMOB Director of Marketing

    The very first question we asked you on your 2011 MeetMeOnBoard membership survey was about how often you travel by cruise ship. The data was clear. All MeetMeOnBoard members love to cruise. That didn’t surprise us but the numbers did.

    Almost three quarters of our 4,000 members  love going on cruises so much that that feel compelled to travel by ship at least once a year.

    This begs the question why.

    Only one member mentioned the ocean even though logically cruising involves water. For most of you, traveling by cruise ship is more about price, convenience, amenities, entertainment and quick travel.

    Rick Dallin from San Diego captures the sentiment of many of you. He says, “Cruises are a good value. You have entertainment, lodging, all the delicious food you can eat, and ports of call.”

    He’s right. Seasoned cruise ship passengers seem to like the whole lifestyle of cruising—with all the creature comforts of home mixed with all the finest elements of hotel living combined with non-stop entertainment.

    While a whopping 74% of MeetMeOnBoard members travel by cruise ship at least one time every year, 17% of our members travel when they can—not every year but every couple of years.

    One man who asked to remain nameless says he goes on a cruise only when his family coerces him. Another member keeps running into hurricane cancellations in the Caribbean and that has broken his annual cruise record—twice.

    Jen Rainin loves traveling by cruise ship because she wants to see many different places. A cruise ship gives her family (wife plus kids) a taste of places they might want to travel to in the future. And the best part for her is that she doesn’t have to keep packing up and switching hotels.

    Many of you like the convenience of cruises for that reason. You lug your luggage aboard, get settled and then the logistics of the trip melt away as you wave bon voyage to your departure port and plan for fun in the sun and midnight buffets.

    At MeetMeOnBoard we are proud to gather such seasoned cruisers in one spot, to create community and lifelong friendships, bonded by the love of cruise ship travel.

    And some of you—nearly half—really love to go on cruise. 40% of members indicate they travel by cruise ship at least two or more times per year. We know from seeing profiles and comments gathered in this survey that quite a few of you go on cruises about 4 times a year. And some of you sound like you practically live on ships, traveling on multiple 60-day cruises pretty regularly.

    On man says he tries to go on 7-10 cruises every year.

    For those cruise die-hards there is obviously something very appealing about traveling this way.

    Rainin loves the home-base feel of a cruise ship. She is going on a Holland America Cruise to Alaska in August and looks forward to this safe way to travel with her children. She says, “They have such autonomy onboard and there are tons of opportunities for learning.”

    David from Pasadena lists the ocean as a highpoint of his cruise ship vacations. But he also likes the all-inclusive aspects.

    Many of our new members sign up at MeetMeOnBoard before embarking on their first cruise. It’s always heartening to see a new cruiser’s enthusiasm and excitement. And it’s equally exciting to see our veteran sailors helping out the new folks by answering questions, sharing wisdom and just being so welcoming.

    Our survey results show that for those who are new to cruising, you tend to return from your maiden voyage energized and ready to go on another cruise as soon as you can. For most of our members, once they get a taste of the cruise life, it becomes very important to them.

    Rainin says, “It’s a wonderful way to travel, to experience the world, to meet and make new friends and to make a difference.”

    Pasadena David says, “It doesn’t even have to be a cruise ship.” He’ll go on a barge or freighter. “I just love the ocean,” he says. “Cruise ships have the added appeal of lots to do, people to meet and some of my closest friends are people I have met on cruises.”

    MeetMeOnBoard founder Mark den Hartog says, “MeetMeOnBoard is very proud that we have a high percentage of frequent cruisers but we also invite the first-timers and infrequent cruisers to join our growing MMOB family. No matter how many times one has cruised, our site will offer a wealth of information to other LGBT cruise enthusiasts.”

    Gay v. Mainstream

    The vast majority of members—85%—have traveled on a mainstream cruise line. But many of you prefer a gay group cruise within the mainstream sailing. We’ll explore that in our next installment of our 2011 Survey Results, Cruising with Family.

     

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  • Randall Shirley 3:42 pm on June 1, 2011 COMMENT
    Tags: All-gay cruises, Cruise trends, Europe, , luxury   

    Cruise trends: what interests you? 

    Today, a question: What current cruise trend(s) interest you the most?

    I ask because I find myself waffling on some upcoming cruise options. We’ll be in Europe this fall, and want to do a Mediterranean sailing. Cruises in Europe are, in fact, a burgeoning trend.

    But beyond that, we’re looking at different types of cruises we could take within our date range. I’ve found luxury options, all-gay options, gay groups, big mainstream ships, small mainstream ships, lines that cater mostly to Europeans, Broadway’s Playbill group (expensive!), other special interest groups…and more.

    I know what I’m leaning toward, but I’m curious what you’re leaning toward in your cruise planning. What trends catch your eye?

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  • Randall Shirley 3:29 pm on May 12, 2011 COMMENT
    Tags: All-gay cruises   

    South American Gays Organize Own Gay Cruise! 

    Buenos Aires from the water © Randall Shirley

    Buenos Aires waterfront from Puerto Madero © Randall Shirley

    If you’ve been to Argentina, you know Buenos Aires has become one helluva gay-friendly town. (And was it just me…or were an unusually high proportion of the men there very, very easy on the eyes?)

    I digress. Just as we’ve recently seen happen in Europe, we now see gay South Americans organizing their own gay cruise. Their cruise is called EGO, and it will sail from Buenos Aires to only 2 points in Uruguay (gay-popular Punta del Este and the capital city, Montevideo). I personally think this is a great way for them to test the waters, and frankly a longer South America cruise might be financially out of reach for some Argentinians (their economy has never really come back from its collapse in 2000).

    The cruise ship MSC Opera (Photo Courtesy MSC Crociere)

    The cruise ship MSC Opera (Photo Courtesy MSC Crociere)

    I’ve been able to find one English language website selling this cruise, and rates start around US $1,150, which is VERY steep for a five-night cruise, even an all-gay one, especially since they’re not really promoting it with any additional gay entertainment. The organizers have a Spanish language Facebook page here.

    If you have not traveled in South America, it’s worth noting that the most Argentinos do not speak much English (nor should they be expected to). Traveling there will require every bit of Spanish you’ve ever learned, and the dialect spoken in Buenos Aires is nothing like the Mexican Spanish most North Americans are familiar with (they call it Castillano). But you get used to it.

    The ship is the MSC Opera, an Italian company little-known to most North American cruisers. (If you’ve sailed them, I’d love to hear about the experience). The ship looks gorgeous.

    The ship sails December 12, 2011. Booking available via this link.

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    • Scott Smith 9:57 pm on May 12, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      In 2006 we docked next to the MSC Lyrica and had a chance to talk to some of the psgrs. They all liked it a lot and seemed to be very Italian in spirit and LOTS more formal than ours which was the Celebrity Constellation.

  • Randall Shirley 5:40 pm on April 23, 2010 COMMENT
    Tags: All-gay cruises, Amsterdam, , Copenhagen, , , , , Gay Pride Cruise, ,   

    "Lower" fares on all-gay Atlantis cruises, good cruise value 

    Holland America Eurodam, photo courtesy Holland America

    Holland America Eurodam, photo courtesy Holland America

    A quick look at the “pricing” page for Atlantis Event’s all-gay Copenhagen to Amsterdam Pride cruise tells the story: The itinerary doesn’t seem to be selling well.

    While I’m not here to promote any particular cruise, I have to say this sailing, starting from $1,699pp for the cheapest inside cabin, $1,999 for the cheapest oceanview,  represents a good value. Here’s why:

    • It’s a 10-night itinerary, and priced very closely to what discount agencies and Holland America themselves are offering on similar itineraries (although it is a somewhat customized itinerary).
    • From the information on their site, this cruise doesn’t seem to feature over-the-top extra gay entertainment (no mention of big name stars) and there is little emphasis on all-night dance parties, so they’re able to offer the itinerary at a rate more competitive with mainstream cruises. But, you’ll be on a ship where almost all the passengers are gay men, and that can be lots of fun. If you have worries about it, see my Myths of Gay Cruising.
    • The cruise ends in Amsterdam on their Pride weekend, so your all-gay fun can continue.
    • They’re also offering airfare on British Airways (departing NYC) for $699 plus taxes and fees. Today I find the routing (NYC-Copenhagen, Amsterdam-NYC) on Kayak, using Icelandair, for just over $1,100, so it would be crucial to know what Atlantis’ taxes and fees are. Similar savings are advertised for other US departure cities.

    Meanwhile, there is still plenty of space on their and their Athens to Barcelona (with an overnight in Tel Aviv) cruise in late August, and the site has more mention of gay-specific entertainment, yet still decent pricing. The airfare add-on pricing also seems like a decent deal, starting at $599 from NYC.

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    • Joseph 11:53 am on April 24, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’m a little worried at how hard Atlantis has been finding it to fill up some of these itineraries. The Baltic cruise in 2008 was fantastic. I’d consider going on this one, but we just got back from the North Asia cruise & can’t take another 2 weeks off of work.

    • Randall Shirley 7:00 pm on April 24, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Europe seems to have soooo many available mainstream itineraries these days, I personally think it may be losing some of its cruise appeal–especially considering the cost associated with airfare, and generally hotels on both ends of the sailing. There are obviously plenty of gays who haven’t yet been, but those who can afford the European itineraries have likely already been. So the market for these cruises may now be much more budget-oriented, and a lot of people in that demographic (including me) may be choosing to sail closer to home for now.

    • Peter 10:13 pm on April 28, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Yes they do appear to be having their own entertainment – see beloww copied from their website.
      Fresh and exciting entertainment abounds, starting with our signature productions in the modern 1000-seat theater. Featuring our hilarious comedians, unique variety entertainers, Broadway stars, massive stage productions, special guests, and much more.

      Intimate venues showcase the best in gay and lesbian cabaret talent, including our own unique piano bar singers. Novel cultural options abound, including gues

    • Randall Shirley 10:25 pm on April 28, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for clarifying, Peter. However, to my eyes, they don’t seem to be putting the emphasis on entertainment that I’ve seen in the past–no big names are mentioned. In fact, the description doesn’t sound much different than standard cruise fare, and I’ve edited my original post as I now see that they’ve mentioned late night parties. However, it seems they’re downplaying those aspects by lumping them in with the ship’s regular shows, casino, and features.

      Don’t get me wrong–I’m not saying Atlantis won’t put on a nice and unique cruise. I’m sure it’ll be loads of fun. I’m just trying to spot places where they might be able to pull their pricing model closer in line with mainstream cruising.

    • Philipp' 3:22 am on May 2, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Still seems a bit pricey, as we have been on non-specifically-gay cruises. If there is a weak interest from the american market, Atlantis would do well to market to European clientele. We would be able to take a train to the port. While we know the cities, it is always nice to visit them by sea. Local entertainment would cost less (at least, no travel to/from expenses).

    • DIEGO 11:46 pm on June 18, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Hello, I’m looking for to go to the next tryp trhu copenaghen and amsterdam, I’m single but I heard that if you go by yourself it’s neceseary to page doble amount of the price. That’s true? it’s possible to share?
      I will appreciate if some one can inform me
      Diego

    • Jay 11:29 pm on July 11, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Atlantis is not worth the value….. Boring entertainment, 500+ more for the same room on the same ship to the same place…. Last years cruise was a mess to Mexico, and the entertainment was exactly the same…. My friends and I are not going back.

      • Brian Legacy 1:17 pm on January 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I agree Atlantis has been using the same entertainment for years. They think that a drag queen is what the gays want to see. Not everyone is 21 as they show in their ads, and some of us could care less about a man in a dress. It’s always the same, a Drag Queen, a Gay Piano Player, A Gay Singer YIKES how about using your imagination we are much more than that, look around there is great GAY talent out there. If you are going to charge us more for a cruise you had better start giving us more. (I am done with Atlantis and RSVP until I hear better prices and BETTER entertainment.

        • Mark 2:11 pm on February 4, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          I agree, I might be gay but I do NOT want to see a man dressed as a woman. I want a man to act and look like a man. Dump the drag shows.

          The double price for a gay cruise as compared to a normal cruise is a concern for many of us who have been on gay cruises from day one. They are having difficulties filling the ships as many gay men are going on normal cruises for 1/2 the price and just traveling in a group. Another thing to consider is they are booking some of the gay cruises on carnival cruise line, the parent company of Costa… where you can be killed for no extra charge. Carnival is well know as the trash of the cruise ship industry. DO NOT BOOK IT. Carnival is not worth the normal rate and it will never be worth the double price of a gay cruise.

  • Randall Shirley 10:00 am on November 6, 2009 COMMENT
    Tags: All-gay cruises, , , sailing ships,   

    European cruise line organizes own gay cruise 

    Variety Cruises, a cruise line based in Athens, Greece, has announced a gay cruise from August 20-27, 2010.  The

    Variety Cruises Panorama will take an all-gay sailing. Photo courtesy Variety Cruises.

    Variety Cruises "Panorama" will take an all-gay sailing. Photo courtesy Variety Cruises.

    sailing will include Greece and the Greek islands–Mykonos, Santorini and other islands on their small sailing ship, the Panorama. Cruise-only rates start at $2,290 per person per week–certainly hefty compared to the fares RSVP and Atlantis are offering, but it’s an apples to oranges comparison when you consider the difference in ship style. But it also seems very steep considering the price only includes some of your meals.

    I personally don’t know how Variety will do with the concept–if any of you have sailed them on a mainstream itinerary, I’d love to hear about it.

    Special activities include lengthy swim stops in selected beaches such as in Mykonos, DJ-spun music, evenings off-board in specific ports of call, and “special events,” not sure what that means.

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    • caribbean cruises 5:05 am on January 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Coming to this post have got me a great idea of sponsoring a free trip to this cruise ship for my gay couple friends who are soon getting married.

  • Randall Shirley 10:36 pm on December 7, 2008
    Tags: All-gay cruises, bears, door decoration, Gay charter cruises   

    Doorways to Paradise! Decorated doors on cruise ships. 

    Your Editor and his partner did a simple door, but it got lots of comments on board!

    Your Editor and his partner did a simple door, but it got lots of comments on board an RSVP cruise.

    As my partner and I prepare for our upcoming holiday cruise (I don’t think there’s any space left, but call the travel agent and maybe there’s a cancellation), we’re thinking about how to decorate our door.

    If you’ve never decorated your cruise ship door, you lose a corner off your gay card! It makes for great conversation around the ship, and is a super-easy way to tell people how to find your cabin.

    It doesn’t matter if you’re going on an all-gay or mainstream cruise, door decor is a hoot. You may feel more inclined to do an extra “gay” door on an all-gay trip, but there’s still plenty of fun to be had on a mainstreamer.

    Over the next few weeks, we’ll be posting photos of several gaily decorated cruise ship doors.

    Today we start with our door from our last RSVP cruise, along with a hilarious door…if you can’t tell the gay “type” of these passengers, you lose another corner off your gay card!

    There's no question who's staying in this stateroom. Yup, there be bears here!

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